Recently living in Greece from abroad and must have tried most of the rolling papers, filter tips and loose tobacco here in Greece. Been a smoker for 45+ years smoking pre-rolled packs. Ended up with these Pappou 6.5mm diameter x 18mm long filter tips, Pappou Green 17gr rolling papers with G. Karelias Blue or White tobacco. The ideal poison for my tastes...and yes, I need to learn how to hand roll. Now living here I like to support Greek products as much possible.